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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.31 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 31/07/2006 09:02:02 By joining the gang, you became a valid target because Lofty is at war with his alt. When joining the gang, it was seen by the game as you were helping the alt vs Lofty, so you became a valid target.
I think thats how it works. Lofty talked about it before, but I might not have understood it correctly. Im not sure why you couldnt leave the gang though (sounds like you couldnt from that message).
Edit: Woa.. so many replies before me. Im getting old and slow.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
He left the gang but he still had war/aggro timer active.
Thanks Jenny. How long is the timer in that situation?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.31 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 31/07/2006 09:07:59 Well, its a lame tactic, but after running around lowsec for 6 hours without finding a target, im beginning to understand why people do stuff like this.
Same thing with gate sniping/camping. It might be lame, but hey, dont blame pirates. Blame the game.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: zerb'liar So basically the fact that the guy you join is at war with someone appears in the gang warning message before accepting to enter the gang ?
Well, message says that someone COULD be at war with the guy I think.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: zerb'liar and I blame no one but meself on that situation : if there is a way to know, that is not an exploit... that is the game...
Yep, its the game and you are right. But I think it shows a bigger problem with piracy in itself. Its so hard to find people, and its so easy to avoid pirates. Thats why people do stuff like this.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
It warns for active wars IIRC. And ganging with a valid wartarget is taking a risk no matter if lofty is waiting for you or not.
Aye, thanks for clarification. 
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest Erm, no, that was not a war/aggro timer.
That was a gang operation timer, which is 30 seconds. You cant jump or dock for 30 seconds after completing any gang operation - that includes joining or leaving a gang, resigning leadership, etc etc.
The fact that you left the gang in-warp and tried to dock was what killed you. Also the fact that you didnt insta probably didnt help, as you may have been able to tank out the gang op period if you'd been on top of the station to dock afterwards.
My own reaction would have been to leave the gang in warp too... I think lofty gets alot of kills this way. People think its safe to just leave the gang if there is trouble. Seems its not that easy.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.31 09:52:00 -
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Almost nobody seems to know exacly how the flagging system works in all situations...  --- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 10:03:00 -
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Stupid game mechanisms like nos and ecm are making Domi almost unbeatable.
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